zapisy:20151215_zapis [Labka Hackerspace Ostrava]

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====== 3rd ======
===== Temata =====
  * libor ;]
  * differences between Hackerspace and Makerspace [ over vs cyberluke ]
  * stanovy [over]
  * projekty [over]
  * najem [over]
  * sidlo [over]
  * nabídky vybavení [dron,...]


3rd meeting results sent as email to mailinglist now, just to make some things clear as discussed too many times already... first in CZ, than ENG:
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== CZ ==

Ahoj pratele,
myslel jsem si, ze z posledniho meetingu pred vanoci, tedy tretiho pravidelneho, nebudu rozesilat zapis, protoze se nic moc zasadniho neresilo.
Mozna mirne nestastne jsem se rozhodnul pockat s "neziskovkou" na zacatek roku, cimz minem i prvni dotacni termin a hazime si tim asi klacky pod nohy s odpoctem z dani. Nicmene projekt na takovou vec nebyl jeste zraly. A zrejme se za to asi i mirne omlouvam. Chybama se clovek uci.
Dobre zpravy jsou, ze zajem o misto i mimo pravidelne ucastniky uternich setkani roste.

Kazdopadne probralo se jedno zasadni tema, ke kteremu bych se chtel vratit, protoze v diskuzi to pusobilo jako pevne dany princip, ale rad bych vedel, ze tomu vsichni zucastneni rozumi.

Princip hackerspace:
- je dany dobrovolnosti
- a priori neziskovosti [ve smyslu non profit organization, tedy ne, ze nevydelame penize, ale to, ze princip cinosti neni ziskovy] - a nezavislosti [nikdo ze sponzoru ani jednotlivych clenu nam nebude diktovat co mame delat, pokud se rozhoduje o sponzorech, je stejne tak mozne jejich sponzorstvi prijmout jako neprijmout. Sponzorum se neslibuje zadna protisluzba za jejich sponzorstvi, respektive zadna rozhodovaci pravomoc v Labce]
- Taky demokraticnosti - o vsem rozhodujeme v ramci pravidel spolku a to napriklad hlasovanim; zadny jedinec neni Labka sam o sobe.

Labka je predevsim misto, kde lide mohou rozvijet sva hobby, konicky a nebo se proste jen socializovat. Ne vsechny projekty musi byt pro vsechny, ne vsichni musi souhlasit s kazdym projektem. Kazdy ma pravo volby rozhodnout se, zda na projektu chce delat nebo nechce. Ne vsechny projekty musi vratit zdroje, ktere pouzily.

Jak bylo receno a diskutovano, projekty by mely mit kazdy sveho majitele, tedy zodpovednou osobu, ktera [v ramci intenci celeho kolektivu hackerspace Labka]:
- stara se o organizaci
- stara se o financovani
- stara se o nastroje a materialy k projektu potrebne
- za predpokladu, ze projekt chce napriklad propagovat a spojit jej s jmenem Labky, jedna s radou resp valnym shromazdenim

Projekt:
- ma jasne dana pravidla, napriklad v pripade, ze ma byt komercionalizovan [eh, mluvim tady o penezych, ale nejsem si jisty, ze takovych bude moc] - tedy pokud bude delan ve jmenu a na miste Labky, jak a co se Labce z projekty vrati
- ma jasne dana pravidla zverejnovani a pripadneho licencovani
- ma dokumentaci na wiki, at uz verejne nebo neverejne
- ma sveho majitele [viz vyse] a lidi, kteri na nem participuji

Chytremu napovez, hloupeho trkni.

== Eng ==

Hello friends,

I would like to have written message about last regular meeting before x-mass and new year even it look like, nothing serious was discussed there.
I did mistake and nonProfitOrganisation is not set up, yet. That does mean it is relatively more dificult for us to be legal for some purposes like sponsorship and donations, but it will happen soon and it is my fault even intentional for some reasons.
Good news is that all core members are still with us and Labka hackerspace project is becomming more and more known... more will follow.

But there are some points of discussion, which is probably good to mention:

Labka as hackerspace is:
- voluntary
- a priori non profit [it does not mean we will not commercialize some projects, possibly, but we are not firm no way]
- free and independent - nobody can tell us what we are supposed to do as colective or organization, no sponsor, no firm. sponsorship does not give anybody some right to decide and not even member or board decision possibility
- democratic - every decision of collective is democraticaly discussed, we can vote and we will follow set up rules as it is written for our own good

Labka is place for voluntary learning, creating and other hobby activity, primary. Or just for socialization, too. Everybody can decide if she/he want to work on specific project or not. Not every project is for everybody and not every project must be public.

Project owner:
- every project have its owner
- owner is responsible for:
-- financing
-- tools and materials
-- organization
-- discussion and presentation of project to Labka collective and every decision belonging to this
-- people working on project
-- documentation

Project:
- have its clearly stated rules
- in case it will be monetized under Labka name and based on Labka resources, clearly defined what is for Labka in it
- clearly defined license
- documentation on public wiki or non public part
- every time have its owner

Thats all for smart, dumb will just follow. ;]

Zdar a silu, Health and Power,
23,93.
-- Tomas Overdrive-Spider Petru